Having a so so and arduous learning flow right now because I cant figure out how and where to practice. Path idea is fine. Youll get it eventually. I find I will only be doing minimal lessons from now on. Even if it only contains a selection of completed stories from the learning path, it would be useful to have a library of stories to dip in and out of at will. You cant possibly complete them after completing a unit!!! As of July 2022, Duolingo challenges are split into three categories: Daily Quests, Friend Quests and Monthly Challenges. I tested past it and am currently working through unit 5 using the hover method. As long as duolingo has existed minus a couple of weeks. Must say that Duo has lost really big and I guess that Babbel will gain a lot of new customers to their, in my point of view, better and more user friendly product. Actually a motivation for me, although the target-time frame is a bit big for my taste. We redesigned the home screen to help you build lasting language skills and make it easier to reach your goals with a guided path. Grammar material which was available for some languages only in the browser version is scrapped altogether. So it is a pity that I cannot practice subjuntivo tasks on duolingo now when I want to, but just when duolingo says nows the time. I stopped doing the stories because I found the Wblank too offensive. Then the discussions on a sentence were locked. The app, which is free to use, says it has built up a user base of more than 500 million people since it launched in 2011. And now youre not even sticking to the roll out date you promised. Is this just that the system changes are yet to be completed or is that it? For sure the ways how a 15 year old, 35 and 55 year old study are different, arent they? My progress was lost. Even so, I think theres still some room for improvement! There is a rapid match one that I cannot complete at all. Practice is also forward progress, and now, its built into your daily lessons! 2. I feel like in the design area it looks like their demographic was a 10 year old. I am learning Spanish, so I dont have any beefs about quantity of content as some of the other users do that posted here. Sometimes these two things were at odds with each other and it wasnt always clear when to move forward and when to move back. The new format assumes I dont know how to learn anything myself and need the app to hold my hand and walk me through each lesson as if Im not an adult with my own mind and experience about how I learn best, but a preschooler that needs constant direction. The old crown system meant you could up the difficulty by simply staying put maxing out every single crown in a skill. The backlash also highlights just how successful Duolingo has become. Heart system still there. Like I said, it is GARBAGE! If your course has them, youll also get to go back over your completed stories. So confusing. Exactly as disgusting as it is on the phone, just bigger. Up for some friendly competition? Now, this isnt something I care that much about. While there could be several plausible explanations for this, to me, it suggests that theyre still not 100% convinced. In the spirit of listening, I really want to know what you think of the new learning path. Q: How was my progress transferred to this new version? Hi Matt! Each time I re-read a story, I figured out something I missed before. Why the difference? With the new format, leagues dont make sense anymore. Agreed. The refusal to grasp this, in the name of saving face, is a weakness, just as this path was reckless to endorse. But thats just a personal issue. I hope enough people quit that the CEO finally realizes how bad they pooped the bed on this one. If youve been practicing the hover method on Duolingo, the new path will probably feel familiar to you! Over the last few weeks, the company behind the popular Duolingo language learning app has rolled out an overhaul to its user interface and experience, sparking intense criticism from some longtime fans of the app and in the large Reddit community devoted to it. I understand that long-term users were the last to get it. Its a big change one of the biggest in Duolingos 10-year history and will definitely take some getting used to. First the forum went away. i freaking hate this cr*p, who came up with this. I also do not like the forced order of lessonsthe freedom of the previous format was much better for me. How is this an improvement? But with the introduction of the new learning path, I, like everyone else, have been forced to adapt. What a waste! Duolingo encouraged learners to both progress through the course AND earn crowns. Im seriously thinking of just quitting all together because I struggle so much with the new format, I dont even want to do it. It seems like were on a road to nowhere. I am repeating many of the sentiments above, but the new set up is boring, linear and not how I want to engage with a language. Maybe that has something to do with it? I have over a thousand day streak and the new format is so rigid that the fun is gone. Now I have the new format. Tap 'Start' and begin your learning journey! As an educational platform, Im surprised that they would be so dictatorial as to how one learns. But I am concerned with how much I have actually learned. They probably want to measure how well users do on the new learning path vs the old tree and also to see what happens to user numbers. Ende. Unit. As somehow who produced material to support Duo I am appalled by these thoughtless changes. I have been only using it for 84 days (straight), and I had a system I had developed to go back and get legendary when I had enough of the lingots. I understand if they need to place ads or make free users spend gems to get a few bucks, but I was giving them money every month as it is. Thanks for this review (found by searching google with does anyone like the new duolingo format. My favorite thing about duolingo, nothe reason in ENTIRETY why I like this app is that Im allowed to choose what lessons I do and in what order. Ive tried my best to represent your concerns as best as I can. It has always been an inherent part of my Duolingo experience. The documentation from the National Centre for Learning Welsh used the symbols and names from the old format so that you could follow their course areas in Duolingo that is now broken. Well said. Some days I have a long car trip and just want stories. Maybe it is available? Required fields are marked *. I still dont like not being able to choose what kind of exercise I practice, but I can spend a lot of time at the lower levels until I feel confident Ive got it. The cracked skills used to make this really easy. Have you got it too? Q: Who is this redesign available to? I relied on duolingo to help me learn a language of a country I moved to. Ill update the article once I know more. To find out more about the monthly challenge, simply tap View challenge. I dont see any hearts at the top of my (desktop) page. Except any quests I did complete this month arent added. One of the biggest issues with the tree was that many learners didnt know whether to press forward or hang back. I do not see anything icons for challenges on my screen: nothings floating, and there is nothing like it on the bar at the bottom. Im 65 Im not likely to need that! Yes, playing the game to get the XP and the achievements were part of the fun. Youre supposed to match the words and clear all of them before time is up. Shelby Brown/CNET Duolingo, a 2021 CNET Editors' Choice award winner, has already made learning a. I'm Matt, the Duolingo-nut behind duoplanet. I also like what the direction theyre taking with the new monthly challenges. Its not useful in any way and Duo must either revert and concede now or disappear. Now for the main event. In our largest courses, our characters voices are featured in your speaking and listening exercises. My other family members just have the normal 1000 XP challenge. Therefore the latest Duolingo version is a disaster for me. Weve also built practice sessions into your path to ensure youre regularly revisiting material and maintaining a strong foundation as you move forward on your learning journey. Its abundantly clear that the new learning path has some teething issues, particularly in the areas of practice, accessibility and freedom. To conclude this : for me : this is a mayor point. Time to decide if my streak is more important than the fun. After all, now there will be lots of people looking for a Duolingo alternative! Duolingo placed me at a level I was a year ago and now I am only guessing much of the time. Id rather have the freedom to learn what I need to learn for my own situation. For every friend quest you complete, youll earn a chest of gems and an XP Boost. While the new learning path employs a spaced repetition approach, it would also be useful to re-introduce a form of skill cracking, particularly for learners that are well advanced in their courses. Im a paid user and Im not willing to pay for it, I chose the duo because of the clear learning process and the visible goal. Additional comment actions. I keep returning days (maybe weeks) on end to the final unit lessons with no progress and I find that highly irritating. I was a premium user. They were all colored, so it looks like they decided I had finished that section already. They also come with some easily accessible guidebooks, which replace the tips sections of the old skills. I dont like the new linear pathway, Im missing my cracked skills, and I used to love to see and repeat lessons as it reinforced my learning skills I cant do that easily now. A bit sorry that I just paid to renew for an additional year. I tried to proceed from where the gold ended, and it was WAY TOO HARD, so I went back to where the gold started (20 levels). Unfortunately, there isnt really anything you can do, other than show up for as many lessons as possible and hope the character shows up. So, I probably will not use the app anymore. Tobi Fondse, 50, who lives in the Netherlands, started a dedicated Twitter account called Duo Is Sad in an attempt to get the company's attention. Going back over old content only yields 5 XP. The primary language which I was well advanced in no longer receives any attention from me. Im looking for another platform. Then they messed with the old tree and I lost my hard work. I just moved to private thus leaving the competitive aspect and will not level up. But as far as I am concerned, they trashed the Greek course for marketing reasons. Greetings and basic vocabulary were included at the beginning of the course, and, in the better-supported courses, grammar would gradually be introduced as well. I did some French since I did that in school (and amazed what I did and did not remember). Duolingo Added Stories into the Duolingo Path and Took Away the Tab. I hate the sudden change Not sure its improved my learning experience! The new learning path simply organises them in a different way, providing a step-by-step experience that is intended to make it easier to reach your language learning goals. But beyond this, the courses were pretty jumbled. Ive started looking at alternatives as the reason Im learning French is because my sons girlfriend is French and they speak French at home. In theory, it should provide a superior learning experience. The path system takes away a persons ability to manage and control their own learning and does nothing to improve the experience at all. In fact, there are so many things I hate about it that it will take a long time to list all of them down. For example, if the challenge is to find Zari 5 times, then the example below will count as one: See what I mean? It kind of makes me sad because normally Im the first in my family to earn a new badge but this time I simply cant be the first because I need at least 10 days of completing all daily quests to beat this challenge (its motivating myself if Im like the first earning it) . Bring it back. Sigh. But I am spoiled by the Duo characters rejoicing each of my correct answers and have come to expect that interpersonal aspect of the game. I have no need or interest in becoming fluent in Dutch or Vietnamese, and I may not want to do anything but 1st crown level of difficulty. I am so disappointed. I LOATHE the new format. I cancelled yesterday. Im going to give it a month to hopefully change back and if it doesnt Im going to cancel my subscription. Frustrating. The scatterbrained new format is not an improvement and is designed to convert users to either paying or allowing advertising. The buttons didnt change after I finished them. Well. Let me learn in the way I WANT to learn. This is the first monthly challenge that requires something other than 1000 XP. So I dont have my tree to play in anymore, what have I done? I liked the old version, because we could choose our own method of learning. I skipped around at first, until I couldnt pass the test out practices. If its owners had improved the platform, I would have paid. I liked it better when they had labels like animals or weather even though they could be vague about the grammar lessons. I agree that there should have been a timed sunset on the old version if they were to do it, and to have an easier way to see where you compare from old to new. I havent used duo on my phone since the update and now that its been unceremoniously forced onto my iPad I hope I dont drop duo altogether. I agree that this is designed for children now. And despite this somewhat chaotic way of studying I still manage to learn a lot in a relatively short time. When I opened DL yesterday, it showed Im a level zero all the way back to introducing the dative case. Maybe then I will understand it and learn more from it. Additional comment actions. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. In time, the new learning path will simply become the new (hopefully better) norm. So I re-followed the other guy, but it still wont let me do the Quest! If I were serious about learning it, Id leave immediately. In fact, day one of the change I was quite upset when I logged in and its still as awkward for me as anyone else which is how I got to this post to begin with. I tried a few lessons and decided I needed a refresher, so I was doing the reviews at the end of each section, using the keys. How do we measure progress? 1153 day streak and now the end! Just received this new format today. It will either be floating in the lesson tree or down in your feature tray. What the tree had in flexibility and freedom, it lacked in direction. I was just interested in looking at the new format but after a peek I could not return to my previous format. The fact that I dont even know where all this grammar situated is annoying beyond belief. If so, I will find a different program to continue my language learning. Sorry but I do not like the new format. Things like TV shows, movies, music, conversations, reading etc. Did they do any end-user testing to see how learners reactedor did they care? I studied it in college and lived in French speaking Geneva for 5 months. So while we can definitely expect tweaks and improvements, its highly unlikely Duolingo will ditch the new learning path completely. I want to be the master of my own learning experience reviewing whatever past lessons I want, reading whatever past stories I want, practicing when I want or not, listening to the audio or not. Having a single, linear path helps beginners know exactly what they need to be doing. There is nothing innovative about this update. "I understand why you may want that," he said. As I always say in some form or another: for me, its language first, game second. Im searching for any and all information to help me figure it out and how best to use it. The first challenge was in May 2021: The Hamamatsu Kite Festival Challenge. I think I speak for a lot of Duolingo users when I say Ive got mixed feelings about challenges. I have been using Duolingo for over a year learning Welsh and find the new update that was forced on us awful. It looks like Duolingo are starting to head in this direction, so hopefully each monthly objective is more than just a different theme. All the fun is gone when youre stuck on this path. Im at legendary in Unit 3, but have left unit 2 mostly at level 1. Duolingo just need to be a bit more imaginative. There are just a couple of Guidebook tabs but these just contain three very simple sentences. Q: What happened to crowns? The person Im paired with primarily uses the web version of Duo, and I bounce back and forth between web and app. I had just finished learning past and future tense and past participle, and now Im on the new version I am back to saying I eat breakfast in the morning I am way above the level that Duolingo has decided for me and I cant do anything about it but plod tediously through the predetermined levels, which I really cba to do. When you initially learn a concept, youll want to revisit it fairly soon after, but then you can gradually expand the time between practice sessions. The new interface goes against most of what we know about successful adult education and was obviously driven by marketing reasons, sadly at the cost of the learners experience and I suspect the long term future of DuoLingo. IF you type in a word wrong now, even for old lessons, you get dinged and lose a heart. Hey! Cant stand it. Maybe I was just bored with the old tree. Change can be challenging. Life simply isnt possible without it. If they cracked, you knew it was time to brush up. Duolingos main passive element is its stories feature. Ill be using them in parallel from now on. I hate it cant find anything and cant focus where I want. Duolingo Plus Review (2022) - Is The Premium Membership Worth It? I feel like Ive lost a friend and am sad. We went on vacation to Italy and with just 100 days under my belt, I was able to speak, read, and understand Italian. They can unlock more by moving along the path, then review them in the stories tab at their leisure. Copyright 2020-2022 duoplanet. They may look up at me occasionally, but its not the same as being on the same level as them face to face. Its completely derailed my progress. Its a big part of my life. The new format looks even more childish than before. Sorry, I wont be doing that. If you have questions about this change, read on for answers! Q: Since its a long scroll, is there an easier way to move up and down? Maybe then Ill have a deeper understanding of what the management of Duolingo is trying to do. "Use the present tense" or "Describe your family"). Or do they decide to just roll it out gradually and wait for people to stop complaining? Its fair to say that Duolingos new learning path has caused a bit of a stir in the Duolingo community. In other words, I find it easier to focus. This is a long shot though. There are about 5 lessons each level. duoplanet is not affiliated with Duolingo, Duolingo New Learning Path 2022 Update HONEST Review. Sadly, I will not go on learning with Duolingo as this new format is not digestible to me. I liked the tree with its neat files and this feels like someone just threw them all over the floor. I speak quiet a bit of the language I am learning by having lived in the country but I didnt know how to read or write it which is why I started at Duolingo. The people at Babbel and other language resources must be overjoyed with these Duolingo changes! Using Duolingo I've reached a comfortable level in Italian and acquired a basic understanding of Russian. I think I started Oct in the Sapphire League. This first lesson alone had probably 15 words I had never seen before that I couldnt even google, because its on the suffixes of them that I have to type out. The second challenge, the 9th Duoversary Challenge, celebrates 9 years since Duolingo first launched to the public. Im searching for a new learning app. My total reply is being moderated. So heres the short version. Is it clear what topics the completed lessons are so its still possible to do this? You can practice by trying the Legendary challenges at the end of each unit. They seem to take a lot of flack for not making people fluent, but that isnt the only reason to play. Its really the content that was very good. I quit my Spanish studies for about a year and recently came back. I left Duo when the changes occurred and am now using Busuu, not as good a Duo used to be, much better for me than the new version. Now, that versatility to utilize it in the time that I have allotted for it is pretty shot. Duolingo's mission develop the best education in the world and make it universally available. In press materials about the update, the company explained that the single learning path integrates strategically timed reviews of certain content that it said are optimized for learning and memory something that was previously at the user's discretion. Now I am forced to do that wretched snake if I want to progress anywhere with the stories. I shall probably not continue as its too confusing and demoralising. Read more about the projects, campaigns, and stories that are important to our company. I call their new path the infinite snake. It makes learning a new language appear to be much more rigid, boring, and difficult! The worst aspect of all of the new version is the linear pathway which makes the sad assumption that the learner cant figure things out on our own or we are choosing to learn in a way Duolingo doesnt understand or approve of. How will I know what Im learning about? The simple solution would be to level the XP opportunities across the two formats while the new learning path is still being rolled out. Wilson said he has been using the app to learn Greek in anticipation of his wedding, where he'll be marrying into a Greek family. However, Duolingo reverted to the original format of just one badge for 1000 XP in September. Well its Nov. 1 and I dont have the new path. Hey! If youre a non-Super user, you can still complete practice sessions by tapping the hearts icon at the top of the screen. Your email address will not be published. 4. It was very important to know where to do so, and have an ability to practice. Honestly, Im going to TRY to give it an honest shake, but Im going to be royally pissed if I have to start all over from the beginning just to pick up on god knows how many words I havent been exposed to that it just thinks I magically know now. Btw, my phone and my iPad got the roll-out about 6 months apart (for the same account). I guess I am not a typical user, judging by all the negative feedback I saw here. Both have 250+ streaks. Ill be building my tree with other platforms. Looks like CEO thinks okey, they seems to be on hook, now I can make them suffer with no drawback. As a new learner I have been learning Scottish Gaelic for six months now. You mentioned several times that the tree was/is/could be confusing for new learners, but I liked the tree right from when I started learning languages on Duolingo. Do you know why I got this weird challenge? This page may contain affiliate links. This also means that the legendary levels are a thing of the past, replaced by legendary trophies. But I guess the shareholders are more important than the kinds of people who helped make Duolingo such a useable tool. The language tree was all Id ever known. We know whats best for you and you WILL do as I say Im an (intelligent) adult and have developed the ability to CHOOSE how I learn. 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